tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7024052508755907865.post5622384865335228745..comments2023-04-10T12:01:00.266-04:00Comments on Lutherama: To Vaccinate or Not to Vaccinate That Is The QuestionDr. Luther in the 21st Centuryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07721847446086170082noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7024052508755907865.post-70275349178178132692007-11-29T09:31:00.000-05:002007-11-29T09:31:00.000-05:00Casuistry in science as in theology is not a solid...Casuistry in science as in theology is not a solid foundation for proof. However, unlike theology in science it does make a possible theory. It is entirely in the realm of possibility that vaccines could play a role in auto-immune diseases, yet so could Clorox. I bring up Clorox because thanks to greater levels of cleanliness our immune systems have less to deal with and well you know the saying "idle hands..." The other thing I would mention is that diagnostic medicine has improved drastically over the last 50 years, so I am very hesitant to jump on the "we are seeing an increase" bandwagon, for any disorder and/or disease.<BR/><BR/>I would not put the pill on the same playing field as vaccinations. Any time you mess with hormone levels it is going to be very touchy, because hormones affect so many different systems. Where as vaccines affect one.<BR/><BR/>Please do not think that I am just approaching this from an intellectual viewpoint. I may be young but, I have a lifetimes worth of experience =). I had a horrible reaction to a tetanus booster as a kid, turned out the nurse had missed the fact it had expired. I also cannot receive the TB vaccine because I have previous exposure to Bovine TB and I react too strongly to the antigens.<BR/><BR/>We are also in the breastfeeding camp. I think people are idiots for not breastfeeding. Colostrum is God's immune system kick start. Can't call it a vaccine because it does not create an immunological memory.<BR/><BR/>From my point of view, I am seeing blame that should solely be placed on doctors being placed on the drugs they prescribed. Just because an idiot has an MD doesn't make them less of an idiot, just a more dangerous one. Good doctors will listen to their patients, unfortunately too many have that god complex thing going. Sadly, too many people believe things are harmless because doctors so often go overboard trying to reassure panicky patients and they minimize the risk. No procedure or drug (I include supplements) is with out risk.<BR/><BR/>I have to ask, what was your son's reaction? I would also like to point the AAP does not set the guidelines for immunization, the CDC does. So, while the AAP may have guidelines, doctors do not have to use them.Dr. Luther in the 21st Centuryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07721847446086170082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7024052508755907865.post-81260547302991594822007-11-28T22:40:00.000-05:002007-11-28T22:40:00.000-05:00Thank you for the information that you have provid...Thank you for the information that you have provided. I appreciate your explanations. With a 5 year old and an 11 year old, the risk for autism is not one of my chief concerns anymore. I do think there is a <I>possibility</I> that the sheer number of vaccinations, the schedule of vaccinations, and the nature of the more recent vaccinations that have come out in recent years might have some role to play in the increasing autoimmune problems that we are having in our society. This along with the low rates of breastfeeding (Multiple sclerosis and other neurological autoimmune diseases are almost nonexistent in cultures where breastfeeding is the norm), how we treat the animals that will be our food, the toxins that we are treating them with and putting into the soil and into our water supply, and many other things are all issues that may contribute this.<BR/><BR/>As a lactation consultant and someone who has been trained in developmental issues with infants (before my husband's last call that moved us across country, I was very near to earning my masters in marriage and family therapy, and I was specializing in bonding issues between parents and infants with various challenges), I have seen babies shut down after vaccines. I have seen dramatic reactions, including in my own son. And I know enough about how God set up their immune systems to interact with their mothers' through the act of nursing and the protective and strengthening effects that human milk provides to know that their immune systems are not mature enough to deal with many things on their own at so young an age.<BR/><BR/>And I know the following isn't a scientific response, but from personal experience, I've seen what the "safe" birth control pill did to me. I have seen what hormone replacement therapy did to my mother (she had 3 strokes within a short period of time -- each time within a couple of days of when her Provera dose was increased. Her doctor told me that despite the fact that it was contraindicated in persons with stroke (and with smokers) he thought it was the magical cure for menopause and everyone should be on it), I've seen bad reactions to "safe" antidepressants. I had to go to five different doctors and have lab tests from five different labs before I found a doctor that would believe that I had symptoms of hypothyroid and polycystic ovarian syndrome, because the numbers on the lab paper BARELY showed me within normal range. I must not be experiencing the symptoms because the numbers on the paper said I didn't. <BR/><BR/>As someone who has had graduate level training in psychology, I also know that if a paradigm is popular, any evidence to the contrary will not be embraced or published in esteemed scientific magazines. <BR/><BR/>There are many doctors, and even doctors who value science who will disagree with you on the thimerosol issue as well as many others pertaining to vaccinations. I also know that we take a look at the math and in a purely scientific sense their shouldn't be a reaction to a drug, a vaccine, etc. we often fail to take into consideration that different people at different ages in different environments will respond very differently based on a number of very individual factors. Human beings have their very chemistry changed by their life experiences. The use of antidepressants to treat what are considered organic disorders such as IBS shows that.<BR/><BR/>In the end, one of my children showed a very alarming reaction to a very basic vaccine, and while the guidelines said he should not have another one -- the doctors treated it like it wasn't one to be concerned about. My daughter early on showed a reaction to eggs. I wasn't going through it again.<BR/><BR/>It may be reactionary, though coming to this point was a long process for me, but it is also a mother's prerogative to trust her instinct.<BR/><BR/>I have dealt with alarmist, panicky mothers, and I am not one of them. From years of reading and from knowing my children the way that I do know them -- the way their bodies respond to things and even the way their brains seem to respond to things, everything inside me told me that vaccines would not be good for them. Maybe later. Not now.<BR/><BR/>I can't explain the chemical processes that would make your hypothesis valid like you can. I respect your knowledge and your ability. Experience is also a teacher. And my experience has taught me that so many things that I have been told are harmless weren't. I'm not willing to say that vaccines are perfectly safe because of this, and given the purely individual situation we were confronted with, we made the best decision we could based on the gifts that God has given us while still trying to avoid all possibility of being merely reactionary. And God be praised, based upon our right to do so.RPWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16686240798146992394noreply@blogger.com